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That diplomatic immunity laws should be repealed

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ZackDavis1997ZackDavis1997 (PRO)
Diplomatic immunity is the privilege of some being exempt from some laws that they are visiting or residing. However privilege of someone no matter status or power should be exempt from anything. It gives someone to much power to do as they please, yes even take someones own life, and get away with it. If you are visiting a nation you should be required to uphold the laws that the nation has put in place. That not only shows respect but keeps order and preservation of the lives that live in that nation. Like they say lady justice is blind
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2021-01-23 10:47:31
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9spaceking9spaceking (CON)
Pro claims that D.I. Allows people to get away with murder, but this has practically never happened. As Washingtonian explains, immunity only applies to the top level officials, and even then the US may ask to waive the immunity. (https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/09/14/five-common-misconceptions-about-diplomatic-immunity/)

If the top level official murders someone, their immunity is definitely going to be waived. They are just stepping in the embassy to avoid accidental fines and minor problems. Even then, traffic citations may be issued. So it just protects them from being unfairly jailed, and justice would still prevail.

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2021-01-23 11:56:19
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ZackDavis1997: You say that the US has the ability to ask to waive immunity away, but do you know what happens if the country that the person resides declines, and yes it has not happened for murder on someone with immunity, but it could, and has happened with lesser crimes, so how do you propose to deal with if they decline
ZackDavis1997: I am still waiting for my opponent to start the cross examination, if he does not I would like the judges to take this into account that con was not willing to engage in the questions asked.

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ZackDavis1997ZackDavis1997 (PRO)
The diplomatic immunity yes applies to high level officials, and I know that the U.S also uses the immunity to protect our people. However saying that it can allow people to not have to testify knowing of crimes, and not be arrested. Not only can this cause for foreigners to get intelligence from or country but lets them have a free pass if they so choose. Now I touched on the point a little but I am going to expand in more details, Americans with diplomatic immunity. They use it for laws in that country that they are visiting for. But the officials do know the law of the country, should we not respect the law, unless it specifically is just harming oneself or others, then we should be treated as equal and in turn put the same standards on those who visit our country. An alternative would be if your so afraid of laws in other countries, to just be waived for those specific laws, not be waived from all of them, it creates to much of an unbalance and power from anyone who has the immunity, and we have seen in history what to much power can do to someone, ect Ceaser, and finally my last point is this yes the U.S can ask someone to waive the immunity, but if the country knows that they were doing something wrong, and them being a high official the can easily have the response of no, should we take that chance? In conclusion I believe being above certain laws in foreign countries is good, because it may harm those who visit the country, but full immunity is to much of a power to anyone, no one should be above the law, and if you're going somewhere respect the laws that are written. 
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2021-01-28 12:51:37
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