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everything is designed with a purpose. and there is no other explanation besides god
examples
god intelligently created the saber tooth tiger with big teeth so that it can hunt better. if he had not big teeth tiger would have trouble hunting. so god gave them big teeth
god intelligently created the deer with short teeth that are not sharp because the deer only eats plants and does not need big teeth
god designed cats to have scratchy tongues so they can clean each other better. btw they lick themselves clean
http://pawsonyourheart.com/
cats would be dirty witho
god designed the alligator green so that it can hide in in swampy waters. btw swamp water is green. if god did not make the alligator green it would not be able to sneak up on prey because they prey would see him. this also helps the alligator so it can be camouflaged on land
god gave bats echo location because they fly during the night and it is hard to see in the night. and they are black so they can hide during the night
https://animals.howstuffworks.com/mammals/bat2.htm
the polar bear is colored white so that it can hide better in the snow
the t rex has huge teeth because they fight and eat other dinosaurs
the owl has night vision because the owl roam at night and its hard to see in the night so god created the with good eyes
https://www.owlpages.com/owls/articles.php?a=5
god intelligently created most fish with fins and scales so that they can swim
god designed the pelican a bucket for a beak so that it can swoop down and scoop up fish
inhttp://cdn.xl.thumbs.canstockphoto.com/canstock23363556.jpg
god designed humans with hands so that they could grab things.
god gave us legs so that we can walk. and gave us 5 toes so we would be balanced when we stand up and not fall down on our butts
http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=3067
god designed humans with teeth so that they can eat things. though i do not mind eating ice cream
god designed us with an immune system so that we can fight off diseases
evolution says that that they were not designed to do these thing but these examples gained these ability's over millions of years by adapting to there surroundings. but how does evolution explains the health property plants.
i mean
also so many plants have so many health benefits. are you to tell me that the saffron flower over millions of years formed the ability to help with mental illness. how can it possibly not be from intelligent design.
https://www.brainmdhealth.com/blog/4-surprising-health-benefits-of-saffron/
how do you explain the medical property's that are in plants other than they were created by god for medicine purposes.
how would that be on accident
olive oil when consumed helps kill cancer cells when consumed. i believe that god created this plant with this function so when they have cancer they would have a way to kill the cancer cells.
https://www.medicaldaily.com/olive-oil-compound-kills-cancer-cells-less-hour-all-powerful-oleocanthal-322904
olive oil heals skin when applied to skin also coconut oil and tea tree oil does the same. coconut oil helps with exzeme rah skin so people who have that god thought of you and created something that would help you. and tea tree oil helps with acne. and oil
there is lots of plant and herbs that help with schizophrenia. god created the plant so that when someone is seeing something they are able to treat themselves
https://www.naturalalternativeremedy.com/12-natural-remedies-for-schizophrenia/
apple brokoli lemons green tea. blueberry kiwi fruit celllary etc booost you dna repair system and slows down dna damage. how would these health benefits be in these herbs beside god designed them that way
http://vibrantwellnessjournal.com/2013/12/10/reverse-dna-damage/
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/fruits-vegetables-boost-dna-repair/
broccoli helps remove toxins and other poisons from the body. i believe that god designed them that way so that people who have lots of chemicals and other waste would be able to flush out there body of these toxins. what other explanation is these effects were created by god
https://news.therawfoodworld.com/recent-study-indicates-broccoli-removes-carcinogenic-toxins-cells/
there are lots of plants that clean out the dirt of toxins and other heavy metals i believe that he designed these plants with these property's so that people would be able to clean out dirt that is contaminated
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2014-08-11/using-plants-to-clean-contaminated-soil/
there are plants that keep bugs away i beleive that god created these plants so that farmers would not have any problems with bugs eating there crops
https://www.mnn.com/your-home/organic-farming-gardening/stories/12-plants-that-repel-unwanted-insects
and there are plants that keep deer away to i believe that god designed these plants so that deer would not eat farmer crops
https://www.naturehills.com/bushes-and-shrubs/bushes-and-shrubs-types/deer-resistant-shrubs
sweet flag roots i believe were created with the property below by god
https://herbpathy.com/Uses-and-Benefits-of-Sweet-Flag-Cid435
It is even observed that if Sweet flag(vacha) taken regularly with honey can have the ability to cure stammering/stuttering problem permanently.
saffron helps with depression
https://www.spamariana.com/saffron-an-herb-to-take-notice-of-for-brain-and-mood/
tumeric health benefits again how would these benefits form if not created by god
tumeric can regenerate the brain when consumed and heal brain stem damage i believe god gave them these property's so that they would be able to heal there brain
https://naturalsociety.com/turmeric-regenerate-damaged-brain-boost-stem-cells/
god said
Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food.”
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/62262-let-food-be-thy-medicine-and-medicine-be-thy-food
and bible quotes on herbs that are spices
Song of Solomon 4:14 - Spikenard and saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and aloes, with all the chief spices:
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Herbs-For-Healing/
a few bible points
in the bible the kid who was sold to Egypt. the pharos wife started to want him because he ate right. this was back in the day when chemicals were not in food
with Joseph in charge, he did not concern himself with anything except the food he ate. Now Joseph was well-built and handsome,
7 and after a while his master’s wife took notice of Joseph and said, “Come to bed with me!”
in genesis in 39
https://www.biblestudytools.com/genesis/
you know how stress can have huge health consequences in the bible it talks about how being sad can kill you
“A happy heart is good medicine and a cheerful mind works healing, but a broken spirit dries up the bones.” – Proverbs 17:22 (Amplified Bible
http://bibleornot.org/laughter-is-the-best-medicine-bible/
the bible says that a bunch of great stuff about honey but why is such praise to honey
honey health benefits can change depending on wear the bees got the nectore for the honey. for example if a bee got honey from a chamomile flower the honey would have the health benefit of easy sleeping or if the bee got the honey from a blackberry bush then the honey would have the health benefits of a blackberries
" Know also that wisdom is like honey for you: If you find it, there is a future hope for you, and your hope will not be cut off." proverbs 26
https://www.biblestudytools.com/proverbs/
it is called multi flower honey and its health benefits taste and other change based on the flowers and herbs the honey is produced from
https://www.specialtyfood.com/products/product/18391/multi-flower-honey/
so if you eat wild honey you would eventually get a health benefit that would help you with your needs
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2019-01-28 14:41:27
| Speak RoundA lot of sources, but what proof have you that all of this had ANYTHING to do with the Christian God?
Perhaps it was the doing of another superior being.
Perhaps evolution is real.
You can't prove anything by saying just that.
It's also true that there are flaws in the bible. One can be found at the beginning of Genesis, the first book. Yes, it's the story of creation.
On the first day, God created light. But on the fourth day, he created all of the celestial bodies. Now, it's been proved that the only sources of natural light are stars and black holes. Yet he created light far before that.
https://www.gotquestions.org/creation-days.html
There are also many other flaws in the Bible.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-flaws-in-the-Bible
Also, many stories contradict each other, since there are many different versions of the Bible. Which could be true? Maybe none!
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| Speak RoundCheeses: Now answer that question. Tell me how you can prove that any of those actually have a connection to God? What if it were are mere coincidence?
crossed: god must have known that there would be people that would have problems seeing thing so he designed many plants with properties that would help with scitchofrenia. https://www.naturalalternativeremedy.com/12-natural-remedies-for-schizophrenia/ how would an explosion from nothing over millions of years know that some people would have problems seeing and hearing thing that are not there and there would be a need for a treatment for such an illness. the only possible
crossed: life needs thought the creator or evolution in your case would have to know that a tiger is going to need to kill thing with its mouth. and so it is going to need sharp teeth or teeth in general.how many arge cats do not have teeth none because they would not survive withut them so god did not make any without because they would die. another example is the squirl needs to carry lots of nuts but can only carry one at a time with his hands god knew this would be a problem and so made there cheeks expandable so the sqiurrl can carry them in there mouth
crossed: how would evolution over millions of years produce a spice that can heal brain damage aka tumeric it has to be designed to do this http://naturalsociety.com/turmeric-regenerate-damaged-brain-boost-stem-cells/ https://theheartysoul.com/turmeric-regenerate-brain/
Cheeses: Again, maybe it's just coincidence. Maybe creatures unworthy were immediately wiped out and therefore couldn't survive.
Cheeses: Besides, our evolution could have undergone many failures. Just, we haven't discovered them yet. Like God.
crossed: alright i can see the arguement that all the animals that were not designed wiped out. but i still hold onto my case that you would have to know that the squirrl would need to carry lots of nuts in order to give them ballons for cheeks. simply because this does not explain why plants have medical properties that can only be god
crossed: alright i can see the arguement that all the animals that were not designed well were wiped out. but i still hold onto my case that you would have to know that the squirrl would need to carry lots of nuts in order to give them ballons for cheeks. simply because this does not explain why plants have medical properties. that can only be god and if there were preevolved animals that died because they lacked certain traits would there not be fossiles or bones
crossed: alright i can't find a way to post my next arguement is that becauseof the cross examination
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my debater said
"On the first day, God created light. But on the fourth day, he created all of the celestial bodies. Now, it's been proved that the only sources of natural light are stars and black holes. Yet he created light far before that."
you only talk about him making the earth the first time he says he would remake it a second time.second time has your answer
ps he probably remakes it after the Apocalypse he says would happen during the end times and i would think that the earth would be polluted. and its is also possible he used the light to create the sun and moon.
so on this remade earth he says that there would be no need for a sun and or moon that god would be thy light
There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. (Revelation 22:5)
when he speaks on when he remakes the earth he says he does not need the sun and the moon and he himself becomes the light.
The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. (Revelation 21:23)
https://www.epm.org/blog/2016/Sep/23/new-earth-sun-moon
here are some reasons why god would remake the earth
in revelations talks about how god would remake the earth and we would reign on it for 1000 years before we go to heaven
so gods thousand year reign on the new earth solves many problems. firstly people with down syndrome or retarted or any other problem are not going to be able to have wife's and or girlfriends on this earth right now nor in heaven because no one is allowed to breed in heaven. giving everyone there new bodys and have god remake the earth then reghning on it for 1000 years would give these people a chance to experience such relationships. we know that breeding and other stuff is going to be going on the new earth because god releases Satan at the end of the 1000 years because these people who were just born have not been tested he says he want to separate the goat from the sheep's.so Satan try to trick the people who were born during the 1000 into rebellion against him and he builds an army and they all try to march through the city and god snaps his fingers and they are all in hell.
https://www.biblehub.com/revelation/20-7.htm
another reason why god would remake the earth is because it would be all trashed and polluted at the end times there would be trash everywhere have you not seen that plastic island we do not leave it nicely.
and there a possibility that heaven could have been the light. he created the heaven before light
one is it also says that he prepared the heavens before he create before light so. i also imagined heavens as a bright place angle seeing and dance the color gold everywhere
this is in proverbs 827
straight out of the source says https://lifehopeandtruth.com/god/is-there-a-god/the-gap-theory/did-god-create-light-before-the-sun/
"The first part of Proverbs 8:27 gives more detail about Day 1 than is evident in Genesis. Before light shone on the water, God “prepared the heavens.” “Heavens” could refer to outer space or the atmosphere, and here the atmosphere seems more likely."
my debater said.
A lot of sources, but what proof have you that all of this had ANYTHING to do with the Christian God? i used a lot of foods as an example and the bible says a lot on food as medicine and said the same thing but with animals two so just focus on the food right now
alright i don't understand the question but with food
the bible says let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine my food little rant here i googled the hell out of this and it was hard to find someone that gave Christianity credit instead of saying its in the bible they all say Hippocrates said the quote. .this source its a stupid hit piece on Christianity and there argument is if food is used as medicine what if they improperly prepare the food and it is raw. stupidest thing ever read
https://spiritualbridge.org/featured-articles/spiritual-wellness/let-food-be-thy-medicine-thy-medicine-shall-be-thy-food/#.XFJUFM2IZgw
example turmeric health benefits
how would evolution over millions of years produce a spice that can heal brain damage aka tumeric it has to be designed to do this http://naturalsociety.com/turmeric-regenerate-damaged-brain-boost-stem-cells/ https://theheartysoul.com/turmeric-regenerate-brain/
if you search any food or plant you would see along list of health benefits
the christian bible is the only one of two with food as medicine of my knowledge i found something on a Jewish thing but idk only 2 religion teaches food as medicine out of thousand so i'm going bible
we all know what stress can do to the body who said this first
https://heartmdinstitute.com/stress-relief/what-stress-can-do-to-your-body/
Proverbs 17:22
A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=let+food+be+thy+medicine&bsec=O&order=0
alright i want to touch upon my own points so i might not disprove some of the point right now simply because i want this to be more than a rebuttal
first one the king james bible is backed up by dead sea scrolls on the account
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-flaws-in-the-Bible
http://www.thekingsbible.com/KjvIsaiahScroll.aspx
and many of the people who wrote the king jame bible took icopyed and pasted it from the 40 people writings who experience the stuff first hand like mosos wrote the stuff in his book and the king james bible took his book annd smashed it togeter with 39 other peoples books
https://overviewbible.com/authors-who-wrote-bible/
alright lets get out of this rebuttal
we found out that drinking wine while pregnant was bad at 1970s. but in the bibles angel says it would be bad somewhere around 300bc
"The angel of the LORD appeared to her and said, “You are barren and childless, but you are going to become pregnant and give birth to a son. 4 Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink and that you do not eat anything unclean"
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges+13&version=NIV
"Then the woman went to her husband and told him, “A man of God came to me. He looked like an angel of God, very awesome. I didn’t ask him where he came from, and he didn’t tell me his name. 7 But he said to me, ‘You will become pregnant and have a son. Now then, drink no wine or other fermented drink and do not eat anything unclean, because the boy will be a Nazirite of God from the womb "
alright so when the angel told samson mother that she was going to be pregnant with him. she said do not drink any wine or strong drinks it was the 1970s when we found out that that drinking while pregnant was bad
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/8600513-what-year-did-doctors-begin-telling-women-they-couldn-t-drink-or-smoke-during-pregnancy-
my mom who is like 70 i'm adopted told me that she drank while pregnant. i not related to her so don't worry
god predicted the the earth floats in space years before anyone had been to space. back in the day when everyone believed the earth was flat job:28
"He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing.
" https://biblehub.com/job/26-7.htm
national geographic says that jesus really did exist
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/12/jesus-tomb-archaeology/
and i had some other points at the bottom of first post you might have missed there pretty good and i want to give notice to them
now i am close to the 8000 limit so it must end here i wish this was more than a rebuttal
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2019-02-01 18:02:47
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2019-02-04 18:04:02
| Speak Roundcrossed: evolution believes that there was an explosion that produced life and over millions of years life adapted to there surroundings the polar bear became white because it lived in the snow and needed to hide. bats were black because they roam at night and it would be easier to hide. they also have echo location because its harder to see at night and so on so forth
crossed: i believe god created the polar bear white so that it can hide in the snow. i believe he also colored the bat black because it roams at night and would be harder to see. and that he created the bats with echo location because it would be hard for them to see at night
crossed: which is more resonable
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you alive
anyway if you had not got what im trying to say
evolution believes that there was an explosion that produced life and over millions of years life adapted to there surroundings the polar bear became white because it lived in the snow and needed to hide. bats were black because they roam at night and it would be easier to hide. they also have echo location because its harder to see at night and so on so forth
i believe god created the polar bear white so that it can hide in the snow. i believe he also colored the bat black because it roams at night and would be harder to see. and that he created the bats with echo location because it would be hard for them to see at night
which is more reasonable
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was there a time extensionPosted 2019-02-04 08:44:19